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    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    Booze attracts duty on top of VAT, fags have attracted escalator taxes for decades, the sugar tax is a recent introduction and a decent government would extend it. The encouragement of exercise should flow from much of those taxes collected. I've got Covid currently, it's very mild and...
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    That's an entirely different point to the one that you made in the previous post. The case count and the death count remain at concerning levels. Note that this is before the effects of the return to schools kicks in (I know of a fair few cases at my child's school), before universities start...
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    Jeez. You've contributed some libertarian explanations on here, which is what we have to endure. But this one's pretty clueless. Why don't you share with us the average daily case count at present, back in January this year, and at the height of the first wave?
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    I posted this in the 'Contact Tracing App' thread but, as it's got very little traffic on, will copy the post into this one too: I'm a little surprised that this thread hasn't been contributed to for six months, especially given the most recent posts on it, but I'll share my recent experience...
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    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    I posted this in the 'Contact Tracing App' thread but, as it's got very little traffic on, will copy the post into this one too: I'm a little surprised that this thread hasn't been contributed to for six months, especially given the most recent posts on it, but I'll share my recent experience...
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    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    The 9:1 ratio was mentioned on R4 Today this morning, in reference to Scotland. It spiked to that during the early stages of the Euros from a 1:1 ratio beforehand, to which it has now returned.
  7. M

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    We are looking at different data. I'm looking at the number of daily cases announced by PHE on a daily basis. For 29 Dec, this was c52000. The figures you're looking at are retrospectively amended, I (perhaps incorrectly) understand -- this means that yesterday's total of 62000 may well be...
  8. M

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    Cases are not rising exponentially, but they have risen dramatically over the last month or so (they were consistently below 20,000 back then), and continue to do so. I don't know what figures you're referring to, but yesterday's number of 62,322 was the highest recorded daily number on record...
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    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    The old chestnut that the public sector is inefficient, and the private sector will magically accelerate the process. It wouldn't. It would complicate it, and slow it down. This is why even our current government, stuffed full of free market ideologues, are leaving it to the NHS to deliver the...
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    They're 'the natural party of government', doncha know?
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    I recognise you've been saying this for months now. I've always thought you were wrong then, but that you presented a valid different opinion well. The context has changed, however, yet you haven't. 50,000+ cases today, a serious jump (and I think it's not even including NI). Hospitalisations...
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    Poor thing's due a holiday surely.
  13. M

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    Conspiracy theorists are rife amongst the alt-right currently. You should embrace your anarcho- side -- as they're far more sceptical about hocus-pocus theories, and are genuinely interested in change -- and reject the paleo- side, as the only other paleos around are on the far/alt/'new' right...
  14. M

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    Spot on. The issue that needs to be tackled is the false dichotomy between 'saving lives' and 'protecting the economy'.
  15. M

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    What utter rot. WHO have been clear and consistent throughout. East Asian countries took their advice. The UK and the US didn't. And how has it played out in these two regions?
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    Thank you too for that response, but I'm wondering why you didn't include South Korea in there, which warrants a slightly different response to 5) above. But, to summarise a lot of those points, China, Vietnam, South Korea, etc have most closely followed WHO guidance, whereas our lot think the...
  17. M

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    Oh, there's a fourth, which is to post something 'amusing', replete with emojis -- often this one ??? -- and other forms of bantz.
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    Having also been there, I'd echo that. Even if it was reintroduced, due to transportation, I can't see too many more than 3,000 being viable and, if that's the case, you do wonder if it's financially viable for the club.
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    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    I agree with some of what you're saying, but not others. Ultimately, all statistics require selection in order to make it to the front of the media's and/or politicians' attention, which then tends to be what the public is exposed to. There is then an onus on which statistics/data are selected...
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    Are you saying that it's fake news?
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