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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    Re reading the scene was most decidedly NOT a waste of time, it was a pleasure, just for the record. And of course it refuted you, always a bonus! In fact it has prompted me to read the whole play again, I think, when I get a moment away from the deep joy this thread brings. It is amazing...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    "Wherein I'll catch the conscience of the King." That is the meaning of that quotation, Hamlet was using the play within the play to dramatise old Hamlet's murder with poison in the ear whilst sleeping, to demonstrate Claudius' guilt, not make some modish argument that gender is a social...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    I spent two years of my life studying Hamlet in the Sixth Form and very enjoyable it was too. It is a play I know back to front, although obviously I have to look up exact quotations as my memory is not what it was. I can still recite great chunks of it though, and silently speak the...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    You seem to be confusing a soliloquy with a speech to another character. It isn't a monologue but a dialogue, and the fact that it expresses his disillusionment with mankind is irrelevant to the point I am making that the sexual innuendo at the end is completely altered, dramatically if the...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    That certainly is the mainstream view. Of course there were no women on the stage in Shakespeare's time, and the female characters were played by boys whose voices hadn't broken, but that would hardly have made it easier for me to suspend my disbelief. Female characters being played by women...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    I got that statistic from today's Times. I am quite prepared to accept it is wrong, but it so blame them, not me. "Last week Ofqual, the exam regulator, accused teachers of submitting “implausibly high” predicted grades for their pupils, contributing to a significant grade inflation. The...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    We can only talk to our own experience. I went to a bog standard comprehensive school in the 70's and studied Macbeth, Midsummer Night's Dream, The Merchant of Venice, Henry IV Part One, Othello and Hamlet in full and in great depth. My son, who went to a (non fee paying) Grammar School...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    That is from the play scene in Hamlet. It is actually deeply ironic, because Gertrude is referring to an actress who is meant to be a parody of herself, and her (alleged) role in old Hamlet's murder. What a wonderful play it is. The language is utterly divine, you see quotes from it...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    Do you follow the twists and turns of the contract negotiations of the managers of any other clubs? I think it is quite cute that you take such an interest. :D
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    Well, the breathtaking stupidity, were there any, came from the Brighton fan I was quoting. HE said that there had been a lack of focus. And I said that if that were true (I didn't watch the games so have no idea) it would be seriously unprofessional. Which it would.
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    It was a rhetorical question.
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    I don't. I had forgotten that you hadn't won the title when you were promoted until it came up on this thread, so little had it impinged on my consciousness. And we were playing in the same division! I am on this thread, and website because it concerns Leeds, no other reason, no other...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    I don't know if that is true, but if so, it was seriously unprofessional. With three games to go there is a hell of a lot to be decided, play off places, relegation, it is the business end of the season. It is completely unfair to other clubs and shows disrespect to the competition as a whole...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    This kid doesn't think so... https://twitter.com/martinstott/status/1284928227107057665?lang=en
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    I don't think he will stay long even if he signs this contract. He never does, anywhere. And as you say, he is in a foreign country, where he doesn't speak the language (although he is better at understanding English than he lets on, the whole translation thing is a fantastically clever way...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    You know what? I agree. Leeds fans definitely have an overinflated ego, combined with low self esteem. Together with a palpable sense of (not undeserved) victimhood. We constantly hark back to the past, (in my case it is is relatively understandable as I lived through it in the late...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    You seem to want to sneer at Leeds' history. Be my guest, it says more about you than Leeds. Then you erect a straw man to knock him down. I never said that I witnessed a great manager in Clough at Leeds, I said that Clough was a great manager, but not at Leeds. As was Stein. Finally you...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    Leeds have had some truly great managers during that time, they just weren't any good at or for Leeds. I don't know how old you are but even if they are before your time you must heard of Jock Stein. Brian Clough. Two of the greatest managers in British football history. Both failed at...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    I have supported Leeds for more than five decades, going to my first match in 1969. So I have seen a lot of managers come and go, a lot. Too many. Bielsa is the best manager since Don Revie during all that time (and therefore in Leeds' whole history) in my view. His side isn't anything like...
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    [Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans

    Yes but he gives a lot of his salary away to his old club Newell's. https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/marcelo-bielsa-newells-leeds-united-15300006
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