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  1. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    Perhaps there weren't several million people in circulation with a highly infectious condition?
  2. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    Who delivers all this training? Where? What cover do medical teams have while the training is being undertaken? Of course (recruitment and) training is a key factor in improving our NHS, but it's not as simplisitc as bunging £'s at it imo
  3. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    I've had the misfortune of having to spend several of the last few days in and out of hospital. Apart from reinforcing my enormous admiration for anyone that works in that environment, it also highlighted that they all go about their work wearing masks {not just over the mouth, chin or ear...
  4. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    Good post. There's literally tons of data there. One of the big issues I have with our so called leadership is the constant reference to data driven decision making yet a complete lack of visibility to any (really meaningful) data. We're fed useless high level numbers which I initially assumed...
  5. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    The bit in bold is bold But let's hope you are right, if so this really could be the beginning of the end
  6. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    Absolutely agree .. the days of reasoning are long gone (if indeed they ever applied to a large minority) But I understand that France and Greece (and perhaps others) are saying if not double jabbed than restrictions (bars, restaurants, sports etc) will apply and as a consequence vaccine rates...
  7. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    Well done them. If there are medical reasons that prevent someone having it so be it, otherwise we should mandate as best we can imo. From my limited experience (2!) those that aren't having it are those that just don't give a fukk, they know they are OK and don't give a toss about others...
  8. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    I'll have the first guess ..... zero
  9. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    Totally, it's just headline numbers that are readily published. Would really like to see hospitalisations/deaths with some context around it e.g 1/2 vaccination/age
  10. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    Jeez ... the entire medical world is literally pleading for everyone to get vaccinated just as quickly as they can and you have the afront to tell me I'm on my high horse? Couldn't make it up
  11. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    "I would prefer my immune system to tackle it naturally rather than have a synthetic replication of it that I don't need injected into my body every year" So it isn't in the pursuit of good research after all ... just that you don't want to have the 'synthetic replication'. Maybe they've...
  12. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately I think there's a sizable minority of a similar view. Yet they expect help and support if and when needed, regardless of the risk they pose to others
  13. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    TBF it's been bad a while, just getting uber bad now. My S-i-L on Track and Trace and has been perma calling people arriving off flights from India for 3-4 weeks now and reckons she has had virtually zero success in getting the message across
  14. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    How about 'we're extremely concerned about the rapid rise in cases in India and we're unsure how our vaccines will deal with the new variant we are seeing and so we are immediately putting India into the red category until we know more' Nah, that would inconvenience people and Boris is going...
  15. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    There's a politician for you ... so poorly dodging the issue. "I am told" = nothing to do with me "fairly small" = what's your issue? "no evidence at moment" = no detailed testing yet, so we'll make an assumption in the meantime "it will be studied" = once it's overwhelming us
  16. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    Over 200K cases a day India should have been put on red list weeks ago. My S-i-L is on track and trace and spends every day contacting people coming off of flights from India (she works off flight numbers and passenger itinery) and she says the vast majority either say they don't understand or...
  17. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    It's been over for ages for the "I'm not jabbed and alright, Jack" lot
  18. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    You'll never get a better reason to be able to avoid going to Turf Moor
  19. Rugrat

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    I assumed that too, but it still tickled me. Many of us were saying such (some) measures should have been put in place when it kicked off in the Italian Alps, not sure the adage 'better late than never' applies to this one :facepalm:
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