[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[The Clamp]

Tim Loughton, Easy Worthing and Shoreham, has given up.

Not one of his constituents so I don't know if he was a 'good' MP at that level.

I am aware of some rather grubby expenses.

However, my impression was that he was less of an utter scumbag than the average Tory of late.


Anyway, off you trot.

Very happy to see him go. Unfortunately his legacy is to have encouraged and championed the over development of Shoreham with unaffordable, ugly, out of place blocks of flats.

He’s as much of a **** as the rest of them.

 

[Stato]

David Cameron claims Tories deserve to win election and says recovery for party not impossible – UK politics live

Foreign secretary talks up party’s prospects – and his ‘very good boss’ Rishi Sunak – on morning broadcast round

www.theguardian.com

"When LBC’s Nick Ferrari put it to him that his record as an election winner made him the equivalent of Manchester United’s Alex Ferguson, and asked if he had any advice for Sunak, whom Ferrari described as the team’s Erik ten Hag, Cameron suggested a Tory recovery was possible.

"I prefer to point to the example of Unai Emery for [Aston] Villa yesterday who looked like they were on a losing run against Arsenal and in the last few minutes slotted into two. So anything is possible in football as in politics.""

Yeah: - Up Emery's Super Hammers, eh Dave?

I'm not sure about Ferrari's analogy. I suppose failing to win an overall majority, but sneaking in with a coalition, could be compared to the 1990 FA Cup win with Nick Clegg playing Lee Martin, but I seem to remember Ferguson went on to win 13 League titles, whereas Cameron limped to one overall win before gambling away the nation's future and doing a bunk. I'd suggest a better football manager analogy might be Don Revie.

 

[dazzer6666]

Jesus H Christ…….worth seeking the full interview out (on BBC Iplayer) if you want some entertainment

 

[Greg Bobkin]

David Cameron claims Tories deserve to win election and says recovery for party not impossible – UK politics live

Foreign secretary talks up party’s prospects – and his ‘very good boss’ Rishi Sunak – on morning broadcast round

www.theguardian.com

"When LBC’s Nick Ferrari put it to him that his record as an election winner made him the equivalent of Manchester United’s Alex Ferguson, and asked if he had any advice for Sunak, whom Ferrari described as the team’s Erik ten Hag, Cameron suggested a Tory recovery was possible.

"I prefer to point to the example of Unai Emery for [Aston] Villa yesterday who looked like they were on a losing run against Arsenal and in the last few minutes slotted into two. So anything is possible in football as in politics.""

Yeah: - Up Emery's Super Hammers, eh Dave?

I'm not sure about Ferrari's analogy. I suppose failing to win an overall majority, but sneaking in with a coalition, could be compared to the 1990 FA Cup win with Nick Clegg playing Lee Martin, but I seem to remember Ferguson went on to win 13 League titles, whereas Cameron limped to one overall win before gambling away the nation's future and doing a bunk. I'd suggest a better football manager analogy might be Don Revie.

Not strictly an election, but he didn't do so well in 2016 when there was another quite important vote for the country...

 

[Machiavelli]

Not strictly an election, but he didn't do so well in 2016 when there was another quite important vote for the country...

He was riding the crest of the wave having won two other referenda. What he didn't factor in was that he had the press on his side for those two, whereas he didn't for the one that followed.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

But its worse than that, 1 in 5 want more of the same and another 1 in 7 are convinced Farage's latest iteration will somehow be our saviour.

I just really hope its the UK is the first western country to properly bin populism and it isn't just a brief rest bite before another bunch of grifters become the flavour of the month.

It really does feel at times that we are addicted to self harm.

Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman have been at a 'convention' in Belgium, under the guise of National Conservatism, with Viktor Orban due to speak to tomorrow, but the Mayor of Brussels has had enough and sent the police in, after complaints. The place holds 800, and around 250 turned up.

National Conservatism Conference: Police told to shut down right-wing Brussels event

Attendees were not being allowed into the National Conservatism Conference after the mayor ordered it to shut.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman have been at a 'convention' in Belgium, under the guise of National Conservatism, with Viktor Orban due to speak to tomorrow, but the Mayor of Brussels has had enough and sent the police in, after complaints. The place holds 800, and around 250 turned up.

National Conservatism Conference: Police told to shut down right-wing Brussels event

Attendees were not being allowed into the National Conservatism Conference after the mayor ordered it to shut.

www.bbc.co.uk

Amusing.

But probably a bad development. They will be able to claim, with some justification, that their right to peacefully state their views has been frustrated by an executive power because it disagrees with them.

Although Farage and their like shouldn't have their voices artificially amplified, they should be allowed to be heard .... and have their feeble utterings robustly debunked

 

[Acker79]

 

[Hugo Rune]

Just need a simple apology with this one:

Tory MP suspended over alleged misuse of campaign funds

Mark Menzies, who represents the seat of Fylde, told the Times he strongly disputed the allegations.

www.bbc.co.uk

Where as this one…..

Police probe 'multiple allegations' against Angela Rayner

The Labour deputy leader is being investigated over claims she wrongly declared on the electoral roll she was living at a council house she bought under right to buy in Stockport.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The meltdown continues from a majority of 80 in 2019, now only 43, with nearly 60 current Tories not wanting to stand again.

 

[TomandJerry]

A Conservative MP has lost the party whip after an investigation was launched following claims that he misused campaign funds.

Mark Menzies, 52, also faced allegations that he made a late-night call to a 78-year-old aide asking for help because he had been locked up by “bad people” demanding thousands of pounds for his release.

 

[nicko31]

A Conservative MP has lost the party whip after an investigation was launched following claims that he misused campaign funds.

Mark Menzies, 52, also faced allegations that he made a late-night call to a 78-year-old aide asking for help because he had been locked up by “bad people” demanding thousands of pounds for his release.

But what about Angela Rayner and her 1500 quid?

 

[A1X]

Worth remembering on the Mark Menzies story, the Tory party have sat on this for three months, and only now it’s appeared in the press have they acted. So how many other stories are out there waiting to be discovered, I wonder?

 

[clapham_gull]

Cheeky colourful character.

Tory MP interviewed by police over claims he got a dog drunk

Friend reportedly had to spend almost £500 getting emergency vet to treat dog for 'intoxication'

www.independent.co.uk

 

[The Clamp]

Worth remembering on the Mark Menzies story, the Tory party have sat on this for three months, and only now it’s appeared in the press have they acted. So how many other stories are out there waiting to be discovered, I wonder?

It’s a grimy story and one that requires a full explanation from all involved.

Oh, I imagine there’s a dozen stories at least for every member of that corrupt, sleaze riddled, party.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Worth remembering on the Mark Menzies story, the Tory party have sat on this for three months, and only now it’s appeared in the press have they acted. So how many other stories are out there waiting to be discovered, I wonder?

Well yes. The only reason why there's even a semblance of party discipline sometimes is most tory MP's can be easily blackmailed by party officials who know where the bodies are buried

 

[lawros left foot]

Menzies had ‘borrowed’ £14,000 previously for ‘medical expenses’
It’s not known if this money was ever repaid.

Maybe he had a nasty swelling that needed taking care of, on a very regular basis.

Is he a good friend of Wraggs?

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Is he a good friend of Wraggs?

A very good friend!

 

[lawros left foot]

I’ve just seen this on Twitter.

I don’t know if it’s the complete list, but, I think it’s enough to be going on with.

 

[Tubby Mondays]

Worth remembering on the Mark Menzies story, the Tory party have sat on this for three months, and only now it’s appeared in the press have they acted. So how many other stories are out there waiting to be discovered, I wonder?

Yeah and still Sunak thought it an appropriate line of attack to have a go at Raynor just yesterday?!

And Raynors allegations of tax avoidance come from a serial abuser of the non-dom tax laws?!

I dont know if thats called brass neck or half witted?!