Yes, Shielding - even The Who are saying lockdowns shouldn’t be used now because of the impact they have on the poorest.
What’s going to shut down the NHS more? Covid with shielding or Ever increasing waiting lists and missed appointments?
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Yes, Shielding - even The Who are saying lockdowns shouldn’t be used now because of the impact they have on the poorest.
What’s going to shut down the NHS more? Covid with shielding or Ever increasing waiting lists and missed appointments?
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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trouble is shielding, a policy i would broadly support, comes with its own issues of depression, ill health, unable to work etc for those shielding. and, this is crucial, probably wont work as people wont reliably shield so the vulnerable will be infected anyway. no country is following this approach, presumably they all have similar conclusion.
Thing is - with the amount of money we have spent during this - we could have spent it on ways around every issue there is with shielding.
They could have had a butler each with the money spunked.
Shielding. Sounds straightforward, doesn't it? Would involve taking the elderly and vulnerable and more or less making them a prisoner in their own homes with no physical contact with their loved ones until this thing blows over. In essence they would do all the heavy lifting for society while we all live the Life of Reilly outside.
Something similar might have to be done if things get really bad again but I think a lot of people claiming the current situation is poor for mental health really mean it is poor for their mental health.
Something similar might have to be done if things get really bad again but I think a lot of people claiming the current situation is poor for mental health really mean it is poor for their mental health.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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think you underestimate the numbers that would need to shield (20% the population? at least), or cost of butlers.
How many people got butlers as a new job option on the gov website?
Johnson looks done
No fight, no come back.
He is on his way
No fight, no come back.
He is on his way
The Wizard
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- Jul 2, 2009
- 18,383
Medium, high and very high 
You just can’t make this up anymore Utterly shambolic.
You just can’t make this up anymore
Utterly shambolic.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
I love Starmer, continues to score points by slating policies. Any idea what he WOULD do to help?
What he thinks is completely irrelevant. He’s not got an 80 seat majority
The Wizard
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- Jul 2, 2009
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Boris or Starmer
Trump or Biden
It’s never been so grim for two great countries, it really does beg the question, these candidates are the best there is on offer, how can it get any worse?
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Yeah, sod helping the country out eh?
Typical of the selfish ####s in this country.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Medium, high and very high
You just can’t make this up anymore
Seems all about not giving a glimmer of hope. Needed a low just to focus on an end game to all this
Pointed out flaws
His solution
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...onth-to-fix-coronavirus-test-and-trace-system
To say he hasn't consistently suggested solutions is just wrong I'm afraid. Not that Johnson would listen, he's not been too keen on cross bench working, more keen on demanding that Starmer praise him no matter what.
Pointed out flaws
His solution
Pretty sure his solution was to fix it by giving it to local leadership who know the area.
But that doesn’t line anyone’s pockets does it?
I hope a journalists asks what the end game is whilst picking up in hand comment about 18 years for sars vaccine
The Wizard
Well-known member
- Jul 2, 2009
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Their end game is a vaccine, that’s literally it. There’s no other way out.
It’s hilarious that a rural town with no cases can be classed as ‘medium’ risk Absolutely clear that they are deliberately using medium/high/very high to scare people, I don’t even blame Johnson, I blame him for being spineless but these policies have Hancock written all over them.
I still to this day believe someone in a high place has a stranglehold on Boris, since he ‘came into power’ he’s gradually looked more and more like a blubbering mouthpiece for other peoples policies.
It’s hilarious that a rural town with no cases can be classed as ‘medium’ risk
Absolutely clear that they are deliberately using medium/high/very high to scare people, I don’t even blame Johnson, I blame him for being spineless but these policies have Hancock written all over them. I still to this day believe someone in a high place has a stranglehold on Boris, since he ‘came into power’ he’s gradually looked more and more like a blubbering mouthpiece for other peoples policies.
- Jul 10, 2003
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You wanted Johnson and co to get a big majority at the last election so that the opposition in parliament had no power to stop them doing exactly what they wanted, and that is exactly what you have got.
I agree completely that it is typical of the selfish ####s in this country not to take actually take responsibility for what they've done