Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Weststander]

He's the editor of one of the very top medical journals in the world. And you claim he has no credibility. Hmmm

@HWT in the last month has denounced The Lancet.

 

[Motogull]

Given that there is some emerging evidence that the virus doesn't like nicotine or sunshine, the best health advice might be to sit in the sun smoking a fag.

Or a massive spliff.

 

[Napper]

Or a massive spliff.

This , even a small one

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

https://twitter.com/vitalvegas/status/1253513041016053761?s=12

How does this affect the numbers if it’s been in the states since Jan?

 

[Mellotron]

Wales now making tentative noises towards a possible slight easing at end of current 3-week lockdown (that's what it says in article, but below quote says end May, so who knows?

Reference made to a reverse traffic light system - i.e. would move onto Red first, if situation continues to improve they would move onto Orange, eventually to Green.

Wales could ease some lockdown restrictions at end of May

The first minister, Mark Drakeford, said the measures could be eased in three phases “like a traffic light in reverse”, Samuel Osborne reports.

During the red phase, only “the most careful and controlled lifting of restrictions” would take place, he told BBC Radio Wales.

More restrictions would be lifted in the amber phase and, if the virus did not re-emerge, Wales could then move to the green zone.

He said the final period “would look much more like the lives we had before the crisis hit.”

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Wales now making tentative noises towards a possible slight easing at end of current 3-week lockdown (that's what it says in article, but below quote says end May, so who knows?

Reference made to a reverse traffic light system - i.e. would move onto Red first, if situation continues to improve they would move onto Orange, eventually to Green.

It is weird how different that sounds to Nicola Sturgeon's statement yesterday. She emphasised that life would not return to 'normal' for a long time.

 

[Mellotron]

It is weird how different that sounds to Nicola Sturgeon's statement yesterday. She emphasised that life would not return to 'normal' for a long time.

I would think life may never go back to exactly how it was pre-Corona. But hopefully in some ways, that will be for the better.

Also, different people may have a different idea as to what a long time constitutes. 12 weeks? 6 months? 3 years?

But yes, what isn't being said in that soundbite from Wales is that I suspect we may be in that "amber" zone for quite a long time. But who knows eh?

 

[Weststander]

It is weird how different that sounds to Nicola Sturgeon's statement yesterday. She emphasised that life would not return to 'normal' for a long time.

She also made it plain that further waves would mean that it won't be a seamless route back to normality.

 

[oldboyroy]

Well we have to start getting back to some sort of normality even just slow measures and I hope and expect to be working again in 2 weeks time. I am in some sort of hospitality (vending machines) which some of my sites will need them to cater for their staff. They closed production mainly as I would presume to prepare for having social distancing in their factories.

 

[RossyG]

A bit harsh on Matt Hancock, I think, although he does have the air of Jeffrey Fairbrother reading one of Joe Maplin”s missives, but otherwise this seems about right.

 

[oldboyroy]

Agree Matt Hancock is primarily concerned with health that's his job and I think he is the hardest working out of the lot of them...he is doing the best he can in unprecedented times mistakes have happened and unfortunately they costs lives!!

 

[Mellotron]

Certainly prefer Hancock over Raab - comes across more genuine.

 

[Weststander]

A bit harsh on Matt Hancock, I think, although he does have the air of Jeffrey Fairbrother reading one of Joe Maplin”s missives, but otherwise this seems about right.

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There's scope for a newspaper (The Independent?) or a TV station to cover covid-19 thoroughly and in a balanced manner, without hyperbole, both the success stories and errors (home and abroad …. warts and all), to benchmark European nations in various metrics, and to table key information as to how exactly nations record covid-19 mortality metrics [care homes/hospices/home deaths included or not? death due to or with covid-19? rather than us trawling trough the internet trying to find definitive answers].

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Did I hear correctly that Wales are increasing the lockdown?

 

[Bozza]

Did I hear correctly that Wales are increasing the lockdown?

More a clarification that you can go out for the specified reasons but can’t then do other stuff “because I was out anyway”, reinforcing that you should only be exercising locally to your home and attempting to limit those using second homes.

For most people there will be no change.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Certainly prefer Hancock over Raab - comes across more genuine.

Agree, think Raab comes across like he's blagging it a lot of the time. Hancock has made mistakes but with an almost impossible job to do I think he's doing ok and that comes across in how he defends himself in interviews.

 

[ManOfSussex]

20 miles apparently the limit for being away from home in Wales. For example, Gareth from Cwmbran can't go and see his bird Carys in Aberdare on the sly and say to the police if stopped: 'Alright, what it is see, got to be honest with you, I'm only having a bike ride for my daily exercise' and expect to get away with it now. PC Jenkins of South Wales Police will now be saying: 'You're getting a fixed penalty butt.'

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/new-lockdown-rules-issued-people-18141144

 

[Notters]

Today's NHS graph:

 

[Wrong-Direction]

The queue for B & Q is horrendous



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[Notters]

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That's what happens if everyone goes the day it opens!