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Wilko

LUZZING chairs about
Sep 19, 2003
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In the next 3 weeks the UK will have atleast 2000 deaths. If we act now we can contain this and keep those numbers to a minimum.

We must close borders to prevent further spread. We must enforce strict curfews and close all non-essential businesses. Other countries are doing this, why are we still in denial about the seriousness of this?

If we do all of this now, today, we will get over this. If we act in 3 weeks time we will not see the deaths from those infected then for a further 3 weeks, that will be tens of thousands, and that just keeps going up.

Act now, today - before this does anymore damage. Put our people before profit. Protect us.

Why are people on NSC now experts on pandemics and know more than the sceintists?
 




Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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Why are people on NSC now experts on pandemics and know more than the sceintists?

I think after we all finally agreed that Ali J is in fact the greatest footballer ever, we had to move onto a new subject where there would be some level of disagreement that we could thrash out for a few months.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
21,210
The arse end of Hangleton
Well Sussex Uni clearly isn't waiting for the government to act ...... all lectures cancelled this week and from next week will be online until further notice.
 


Mo Gosfield

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Aug 11, 2010
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Well Sussex Uni clearly isn't waiting for the government to act ...... all lectures cancelled this week and from next week will be online until further notice.

A contact of mine who works at a college in Bucks has informed me that 200 odd pupils and 12 staff have self-isolated themselves, as from this morning, as a precautionary measure. She reckons the college will be closed before the weekend.
 


Rugrat

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Mar 13, 2011
10,217
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the method of operation does not appear to be working on continental Europe.


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Nobody knows that, the reporting of new cases is now wildly inaccurate and it will take time to determine the impact of lockdown measures.

In my mind it will work but it's down to the individual population. It appears to have worked in China but I suspect it will work less well in our 'free' society. Here in Tenerife many tourist types (easy to tell) and to a lesser extent locals, appear to be ignoring it ... will be interesting to see to what extent the lockdown is enforced
 




peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
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Find one reliable news source you trust and tune into it for updates 3 times a day. Do not scurry around social and multiple media sites where the standard language is that of catastrophe.
Phrases such as “dying at home”, “collapse of society” etc will only raise your anxiety levels and are not helpful.
If you are shit scared I really wouldn’t look at NSC, there far too much emotion and not anywhere near enough practical advice and reasoned analysis.

Get a plan in place;

Identify likely risks
Mitigate them as much as you can
Get some basic medicines and a good fully stocked first aid kit in. Lots of cuts or illness can be dealt with at home if you have a sensibly stocked bathroom cabinet.
Get back some control, is there an elderly neighbour or vulnerable person you could help, take some shopping over etc?

Carry on with your usual wellbeing routine. Eat well and rest, exercise and take part in any creative endeavours you enjoy. Whether this is in isolation or with others.

To summarise;
Get a plan in place
Maintain a first aid kit and medicines
Help others
Maintain a normal routine where possible or adapt it for isolation.


It’s not the end of days but it does require some planning. You’ll be fine.

It has nothing to do with panic or anxiety, it's an ability to see what is happening, the direction of travel, versus real world realities, like type of country and infrastructure and project that forward.

It's why many of us could clearly see we'd be at this point when only 200 were infected and a couple had died whilst others were calling it all a big fuss about nothing.

It's the same again, looking at European neighbours, our types of liberal society, our health service, available ICU beds and lack of respirators. A viral tsunami is coming, many won't drown but enough will, and with our current strategy our maxed out health service will become overwhelmed, care and equipment will be on a selective basis and people will die at home. Unless a cure or vaccine is found before then.

These are all impending realities not yet realised. What you saw around us 1 month ago is vastly removed from what is going on today, it's going to get a helluva lot worse, we've not even really started yet.
 


Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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Durrington High have taken the first session this morning to ensure all pupils can access and confidently use Google Classroom (for remote learning).
 


RossyG

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Dec 20, 2014
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" the 229 specialists in disciplines ranging from mathematics to genetics - though no leading experts in the science of the spread of diseases "

And apparently 55 of them are students doing a doctorate in Mathematics.

[tweet]1238933743404036103[/tweet]
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
18,763
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As I have posted previously my wife has a serious lung condition.

Yesterday I decided to clean the oven. she was happily watching some rubbish on TV.

A ten second spray of oven cleaner, well away from her, caused her to have an asthma attack which required all sorts of medication to resolve it.

She's ok now, however I'm now in isolation. Well she's not talking to me!!
 




Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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I think after we all finally agreed that Ali J is in fact the greatest footballer ever, we had to move onto a new subject where there would be some level of disagreement that we could thrash out for a few months.

Hopefully the virus will go the same way as that nonsense.

Coronavirus is clearly a virus and should be treated and respected as such.
But chances are Coronavirus isn't the world's greatest virus, although it is more than capable of doing a job.
 




drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
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Yesterday about 1,400 people died in Britain. 15 of them were from Coronavirus. I suppose context like that can be a bit re-assuring? Shit happens and we are usually pretty good at coping.

That's figures for one day. Tomorrow it might be 1400 people died and 30 were from covid-19. The next it could be 1400 died and 60 were from Covid-19!!
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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It has nothing to do with panic or anxiety, it's an ability to see what is happening, the direction of travel, versus real world realities, like type of country and infrastructure and project that forward.

It's why many of us could clearly see we'd be at this point when only 200 were infected and a couple had died whilst others were calling it all a big fuss about nothing.

It's the same again, looking at European neighbours, our types of liberal society, our health service, available ICU beds and lack of respirators. A viral tsunami is coming, many won't drown but enough will, and with our current strategy our maxed out health service will become overwhelmed, care and equipment will be on a selective basis and people will die at home. Unless a cure or vaccine is found before then.

These are all impending realities not yet realised. What you saw around us 1 month ago is vastly removed from what is going on today, it's going to get a helluva lot worse, we've not even really started yet.

Trust you not to agree with sensible advice. Aside from you comprehensively misunderstanding my post and suggestion that multiple, contradictory news sources laden with apocalyptic rhetoric can raise anxiety, the bloke was seeking some practical reassurance because he is scared.

This is exactly why your sort of response is so crap in a crisis.
Someone says they’re scared can you please offer me some reassurance? Your reply? “This is going to get a lot worse”.

You may be right but it’s helpful to temper your response to suit the situation.

Most people will be much more productive and useful if you go through some practical steps to help them rather than sit there saying we’re all doomed.
 


peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
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Hopefully the virus will go the same way as that nonsense.

Coronavirus is clearly a virus and should be treated and respected as such.
But chances are Coronavirus isn't the world's greatest virus, although it is more than capable of doing a job.

It's a lot more dangerous than our attacking threat.
 






SK1NT

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Sep 9, 2003
8,744
Thames Ditton
This shit it still scaring me - can anyone reassure me?!

Things will get better... i am pretty calm about it all but even when i watch the media i feel like it's the end of the world. Chin up mate


I thought that this was interesting... a positive to the virus and lockdowns...

Coronavirus: Nasa images show China pollution clear amid slowdown

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51691967
 








piersa

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Apr 17, 2011
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London
And apparently 55 of them are students doing a doctorate in Mathematics.

[tweet]1238933743404036103[/tweet]

What an utter embarrassment.
 


Bry Nylon

Test your smoke alarm
Helpful Moderator
Jul 21, 2003
19,971
Playing snooker
Someone says they’re scared can you please offer me some reassurance? Your reply? “This is going to get a lot worse”.

In all of this shitstorm, there are a few posts that cut through the gathering gloom and genuinely make me laugh - which let's face it, is a precious commodity at the moment.

The above is one of these moments.
 


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