Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Fungus]

More panic.

I think you need to be more specific. More panic by who about what? Or should I just panic now?

 

[Fat Boy Fat]

I think you need to be more specific. More panic by who about what? Or should I just panic now?

Don't know, but seeing as it directly followed mine and Lamie"s posts, guess it might have been aimed at me. Shame that someone who works in a caring profession appears to be so uncaring...

Apologies to him though, if I'm wrong!

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Let’s hope the new Macron Variant doesn’t go anywhere.

 

[A1X]

Let’s hope the new Macron Variant doesn’t go anywhere.

Not seen anything about this, link?

 

[A1X]

[tweet]1478767856292708362[/tweet]

 

[The Clamp]

Don't know, but seeing as it directly followed mine and Lamie"s posts, guess it might have been aimed at me. Shame that someone who works in a caring profession appears to be so uncaring...

Apologies to him though, if I'm wrong!

It was not aimed at either of you. Apologies if it seemed as such.

 

[Fat Boy Fat]

@%1;

It was not aimed at either of you. Apologies if it seemed as such.

No worries, I did get my apology in first, just in case

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1478339785999671297?s=21

This guy is always worth a read.

 

[Weststander]

Things are getting heated.



Looks like Mustafa and Desparate Dan can delete France from their holiday destination wish lists, forever.

 

[A1X]

Good on Macron. Wish Johnson had the balls to do it here.

 

[dsr-burnley]

It would be very helpful if they would publish the number of patients in hospital BECAUSE of Covid alongside those with covid.
If I go in with a broken leg and happen to have Covid I am currently in hospital with covid- which whilst technically correct its not the whole picture

It would seem anecdotally at least that a sizeable % aren't in hospital because of the virus, and even if it were only a few % it would impact the figures quite a bit

As a rule of thumb, I reckon you can get a good idea by taking the percentage of people who have a positive test, and applying it to the normal number of admissions, and saying that is how many will be "incidental covid" admissions.

So at present, 5% of the population has had a positive test in the past 28 days. About 3.3m people, that is. So we would expect - if covid made no difference at all to health - 5% of hospital admissions to have covid. In a normal week we have about 100,000 hospital admissions in the UK, and so that would be 5,000 incidental.

Another point to consider is that about 20% of hospital covid admissions, from the best info I can find online (and that best info is pretty woolly), are people who caught covid while in the hospital.

Based on the week to 4th January, England figures "grossed up" to cover the rest of the country because the rest of the country is slower at getting figures out, about 16,000 people have been admitted to hospital in the last week. Of which 5,000 would be incidental admissions and 3,000 would be caught in hospital, which would leave 8,000, or 50%, genuinely ill with covid when they went to hospital.

It's rough and ready, but it matches the anecdotal evidence, and I think it makes sense.

(The same can be applied to deaths. 1,084 total deaths in the past week, but based on a normal 12,000 deaths per week in winter and 5% of the population having a qualifying positive test, that would be an expected 600 "incidental" covid deaths - we would expect 600 covid deaths if covid had no health implication at all. So in that number, less than 50% of the covid deaths are actually caused by covid.)

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Covid case rates in Wales are rising almost three times faster than in England despite tougher restrictions being in place, according to the latest figures.

People in Wales have been living under alert level two measures since Boxing Day, which include mandatory face coverings in all indoor settings, a six person limit for meeting in public places and the closure of all nightclubs.

Despite the measures, the country's Covid cases have almost doubled since Dec 26, with an overall increase of 94 per cent, according to the latest government data. In comparison, England’s cases have increased by only 34 per cent.

Under England's current Plan B measures - which are less strict than in Wales - people have been told to work from home wherever possible, wear face coverings on public transport and in public places, and show proof of their Covid vaccination status to access large events and nightclubs.

Drakeford better enforce a full lockdown

 

[dsr-burnley]

Covid case rates in Wales are rising almost three times faster than in England despite tougher restrictions being in place, according to the latest figures.

People in Wales have been living under alert level two measures since Boxing Day, which include mandatory face coverings in all indoor settings, a six person limit for meeting in public places and the closure of all nightclubs.

Despite the measures, the country's Covid cases have almost doubled since Dec 26, with an overall increase of 94 per cent, according to the latest government data. In comparison, England’s cases have increased by only 34 per cent.

Under England's current Plan B measures - which are less strict than in Wales - people have been told to work from home wherever possible, wear face coverings on public transport and in public places, and show proof of their Covid vaccination status to access large events and nightclubs.

Drakeford better enforce a full lockdown

It's all the fault of Chester City FC.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59906505

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

It's all the fault of Chester City FC.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59906505

And people daring to go to work !

 

[banjo]

I tested positive on Tuesday and thank god I’m triple jabbed. I hate to think how I’d feel without being vaccinated. I feel rough as old boots.

 

[nicko31]

Good tool to assess the Covid risk..

Watching BHA at the Amex without facemask 1.5%
Nipping out to the toilet at half time with facemask 0.87%
Taking the train and chatting with facemask 4.3%

 

[Swansman]

Good tool to assess the Covid risk..

Watching BHA at the Amex without facemask 1.5%
Nipping out to the toilet at half time with facemask 0.87%
Taking the train and chatting with facemask 4.3%

View attachment 143530

This is why I dont exercise

 

[The Wizard]

Haven’t updated a while, my entire house is now negative.

I had no symptoms throughout and tested negative on a LTF after 7 days, extremely bizzare to have had COVID and literally no nothing of it.

I think omicron is the end of the pandemic, out competing all other variants and much milder, natural virus evolution.

 

[e77]

If we are asking the government to split up 'with Covid' and 'because of Covid' do we also have the 20-30 excess deaths before testing became a thing added to the death toll as well?

 

[Weststander]

Covid case rates in Wales are rising almost three times faster than in England despite tougher restrictions being in place, according to the latest figures.

People in Wales have been living under alert level two measures since Boxing Day, which include mandatory face coverings in all indoor settings, a six person limit for meeting in public places and the closure of all nightclubs.

Despite the measures, the country's Covid cases have almost doubled since Dec 26, with an overall increase of 94 per cent, according to the latest government data. In comparison, England’s cases have increased by only 34 per cent.

Under England's current Plan B measures - which are less strict than in Wales - people have been told to work from home wherever possible, wear face coverings on public transport and in public places, and show proof of their Covid vaccination status to access large events and nightclubs.

Drakeford better enforce a full lockdown

Some scientists in December mentioned a risk with firebreaks, the closing of nightclubs etc, especially at a socialising time of the year - folk will simply do all that indoors in homes instead, more house parties and gatherings.

Some Welsh local authorities actually picked up on this in Dec 2020, when they had the highest Covid case rate in Europe. Through track n trace, they established that the explosion in cases stemmed from large gatherings in homes.