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  1. pb21

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    It makes sense to me and I don't feel as though he is treating me like an idiot, I don't think you have read this correctly :p 1. They have actually seen a "20%-25% reduced chance of a hospital visit and at least a 40% lower risk of being admitted overnight". 2. I agree the vaccine being...
  2. pb21

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    Reading the story tonight it seems that the lower severity is factored into the Sage minutes of upto 3,000 daily hospital admissions. If the anticipated severity was reasonably expected to be higher then the daily hospitalisations would have been higher and its likely tht further measures...
  3. pb21

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    IMO we would have seen more draconian restrictions by now if 'they' thought it was likely to be as (or more) severe in terms of hospitalisations/deaths, than previous variants.
  4. pb21

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    Hasn't that generally been accepted as being the most likely scenario by essentially everyone for a couple of weeks now? The issue is how much more mild is it and how many people will get it and over what time frame.
  5. pb21

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    There does seem to be a lot of anecdotal 'evidence' coming out (TBF, some empirical evidence too) that this Omicron variant is just a 'flash in the pan', or possibly better. I would love to know what the likes of Whitty and Valence think about this at the moment.
  6. pb21

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    I was more thinking it's the that dichotomy of the outcomes that is bizzare. It's either: A) already passed; or B) the NHS will be overwhelmed and won't be able to keep up with day-to-day tasks. There doesn't seem to be any middle ground presented as an option!
  7. pb21

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    Looks like the peak of omicron wave may have passed not only South Africa, but also the UK, at least according to some. On the one hand this is being sold as something requiring us to stay at home and not mix, on the other hand it's being suggested it's already over; it's a bit bizarre.
  8. pb21

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    I'm a bit skeptical of this data. It appears the peak of the 4th wave has already passed, daily cases and the 3- 7-day moving averages are declining, with the 4th wave effectively as high as previous waves. On that basis total omicron cases will be much fewer than previous waves...
  9. pb21

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    I don't think that's true at all. Proposed measures are in relation to anticipated hospitalisations and deaths. The issue is how serious is the risk and what data are people anticipating the future on. I see numerous tweets and links to articles that it's not really a significant issue and we...
  10. pb21

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    That second tweet shows cases are now falling and didn't get as high as they had in June/July. Something can't be right with that?
  11. pb21

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    It seems likely that some further guidelines/measures/restrictions are going to be coming in soon, or at least announced soon, maybe starting next week… Clearly Omicron is spreading rapidly but there are conflicting reports as to the severity, which is the critical factor. I have read things...
  12. pb21

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    I think, given your personal circumstances of being at home anyway (and presumably with low risk people), you're being very flippant. Life for you will carry on the same regardless of your covid status over the next couple of weeks. However for many, life won't go on if they contract covid in...
  13. pb21

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    1.63m tests are the number of tests undertaken in the previous 24-hours, whereas the cases reported today could have been from tests a few days ago. 20k tests were positive from those tested today, so far... Regardless, testing is increasing but that is almost certainly because more people are...
  14. pb21

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    No Chris Whitty said something along these lines this AM https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2021/dec/16/uk-covid-christmas-omicron-cases-booster-vaccine-coronavirus-boris-johnson-latest-updates?page=with:block-61bb1ac48f08c02cca9b47ec#block-61bb1ac48f08c02cca9b47ec
  15. pb21

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    I think the issue with Omicron isn’t so much the CFR as the hospitality rate, and the rate at which people are getting it. It does seem to be milder, particularly the very serious cases, but there is still a very reasonable concern it will cripple the NHS due to the sheer number of people...
  16. pb21

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    Has the number of tests increased because of increased capacity or because of increased demand?
  17. pb21

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    There's positive and negative bits in this article. The negative is that it's not a significant reduction in hospitalisations consisering how quick it seems to be spreading amongst the general population. The positive is that there is a significant, 75% reduction, in serious cases, but again...
  18. pb21

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    Yes, fair enough. Still such face coverings would be useful for friends and family of deaf people, also I see a lot public places have clear screens so you can see people's faces in shops etc. I agree far from ideal though.
  19. pb21

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    https://lmgtfy.app/?q=clear+face+covering
  20. pb21

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    The roadmap out is to vaccinate millions of people every week.
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