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We outplayed Utd earlier this season, certainly, but let’s be honest, the cup semi-final and the late 1-0 home win were 50/50s.

Luton and Fulham HAVE taken us apart this season! Thank f*** the lads managed to get themselves up for the Palace game in between.

Steele got us to 6th on his own? No credit to Sanchez for the 23 league games he played in goal then?

He's been a good manager for the first season and a bit, but he's not the best we've ever had. Most managers come in to a club becuase the previous man has been sacked, which usually means the team needs an overhaul. RDZ came when the team was absolutely flying and all he had to do was keep...

We at least has some sort of excuse in the autumn with those 6 extra Europa games, and we did well in the Europa and ok in the PL considering. It's been beyond shit in every competition since Feb.

That's the worst thing: he really does have no Plan B. The gung ho tactics are the reason that the Europa League tie against Roma was over after the first game.

It's f*** all to do with being on the beach. We've looked dreadful since late Feb, at which point we were still in the Europa, FA Cup and in with a shout of European qualification.

Defenders are always scared of pace.

3/1 on 5 goals or more in the games seeemed like value to me.

If he was that fragile, then being a professional GK is the wrong job for him. All keepers must surely take a hammering at times in their careers, no?

I accept it’s subjective, but there’s a reason that Bart already has senior caps for Holland, despite only being 21. He’s by far superior keeper.

You’re right. A 2 goal defeat to City is probably about par for most PL teams. I however fear a hammering. I genuinely feel sorry for Steele and think he’s been treated unfairly by RDZ. Confidence must’ve been low following 0-3 at Fulham then that early mistake at Wolves costing us the game...

My already-mediocre positivity has shifted down a tad on seeing that we haven’t, in fact, given up on this rediculous GK rotation experiment.

I'm trying to be positive on the basis that they've played 210 minutes of full-on KO football over the last 8 days, all while we've had our feet up. However, I don't think this is nearly enought to offset the fact they are probably the best squad on the world, and we've been crap since late...