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    The Vaccine Thread

    If, as you contend, the figures now are wildly different to what has gone before, those years will be fine for comparison purposes. I think death numbers for people playing sport earlier this year, during the period when playing sport was banned or restricted due to coronavirus, might not be a...
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    The Vaccine Thread

    If you aren't interested in the report, don't read it. If you are interested, then read it and stop asking stupid questions. All those answers are in the one-paragraph summary.
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    The Vaccine Thread

    The UK report was 95% cardiac arrests.
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    The Vaccine Thread

    Are you even trying to understand? I am not saying that footballers are not dying during matches. You have got so far down your hobby horse of "footballers are dying and they never did before" that you can't even bring yourself to read, or at least to understand, anything else. FACT -...
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    The Vaccine Thread

    In a FIFA 4-year study, 617 players were reported a dying during football-related activity - matches or training. That's about 3 per week. I did not see them reported, just as you didn't, but if you put them all onto a horror video you would no doubt have been scared then...
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    The Vaccine Thread

    Here's a study that you will be interested in. It shows from various sources that sudden death happens to about 1.5 to 1.8 out of every 100,000 athletes, per year. This was in 2014, long before coronavirus. So for example, we would expect (based on half a million US college students) that...
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    The Vaccine Thread

    I don't get you. Why try to disprove it? Well, the obvious reason is that it might not be true. Don't look at is an attempt to disprove, look at it as an attempt to find the truth. I'm not ridiculing, I'm not ignoring. Do you even know what ignoring means? How can I be ignoring it when I...
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    The Vaccine Thread

    By "actual data", I mean something we can compare. The allegation in that video was that there are more than 60 cardiac arrests in footballers now than there were pre-covid. If that is true, then we don't need evidence just about the number of cardiac arrests now; we also need evidence of what...
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    The Vaccine Thread

    For any sort of useful comparison, we need to know what the usual rate of cardiac arrest was pre=covid and what it is now. Without that, we have no data. I can tell you that in the three months to July 2021, 782 people aged between 20-29 died in the UK of non-covid causes, compared with 733 in...
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    The Vaccine Thread

    Numbers? Have you a reliable link that shows that at least 61 footballers around the world have had a cardiac arrest on the pitch in the last four months, and a reliable link to show that the usual average is only 1? (Or numbers multiplied up in proportion.)
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    The Vaccine Thread

    All viruses affect different people in different ways. Some people get covid and don't notice it, some people get covid and are in intensive care or worse. Flu is the same. You can get it and feel awful, and you can get it and barely notice,
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    The Vaccine Thread

    Yes, so you said. But I don't believe he actually meant to say that anyone, even someone who has never been vaccinated at all, can have a booster; I think they were talking at cross-purposes. It's like if someone was asked "can anyone come to the prostate cancer event for a test" , if the...
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    The Vaccine Thread

    Maybe. I suppose what it boils down to is that anyone who is eligible can get a jab without waiting for an invite, and anyone who is not eligible can't have a jab.
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    The Vaccine Thread

    Not being pedantic, just a straightforward misunderstanding. I didn't think Kwarteng was saying that everyone over 50 could book a booster regardless of when (or whether!) they had their second jab. I thought he was saying that people who are due to have a booster can have one without waiting...
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    The Vaccine Thread

    My mother wasn't invited, and still hasn't been, but I logged on to the NHS website and booked one without difficulty.
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    The Vaccine Thread

    The bit about airlines doing checks is a no-story. The bit about Border Control not doing checks - that's a story. (Especially since with the traffic levels still low, they should have extra time to make the checks anyway.)
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    The Vaccine Thread

    Airports have been checking paperwork for years. Ever since the rule came in that if they deliver a passenger who doesn't have the correct paperwork, they have to give him a flight back home at the airline's expense and try and get money off him later.
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    The Vaccine Thread

    It seems strange that a few months ago they were sueing AstraZeneca, demanding that all their worldwide production should be diverted to the EU. Now they are saying that large chunks of that worldwide production are too dangerous to let into the country, even after injection into someone else's...
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    The Vaccine Thread

    OK. Let me rephrase it. 50,000 people are currently in their last month of life, and are unable to a greater or lesser degree to see their friends and relatives. There are no official statistics to say whether any of them, or how many, are feeling lonely or alone. It is at least a...
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    The Vaccine Thread

    They can. Two masked visitors, if the care home will allow them. Of course, not all care home residents have only two relatives, and they can't hug them, and they can't see them smile, and particularly for dementia sufferers, a visit from someone you can't recognise isn't the same as a visit...
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