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Shirley the point has to be 'nobody has seen much from him'.

Just confirmation bias - nothing more. Nobody knows how Moder will pan out. But the need to be first right and never wrong in front of a faceless internet community is strong.

I was paying Jakub close attention. He was desperate to get on the end of a Groß cross, but they just didn't come in. Less so with the wingers but he definitely wanted to be targeted for the crosses coming in from 20-30 yards deep as opposed to the by-line.

This place wouldn't be the same if we weren't trying boot someone out of the squad.

Exactly Jakub is currently in pre-pre season. He came v Luton probably taking both Sheffield and palace out of the equation and he's not coming on v Spurs, for obvious reasons. The only problem is those situations are going to still be in place until such time as we slip in obscurity and out...

And you're not considering the levels of trust Jakub has to put into his knee, his rehab, his training, his mental health, the opposition. None of that happens over 6 weeks.

Blimey what are we talking here 2 years out - 6 weeks to get back. tough crowd. That said the competition for his place in the side/on the bench is ever increasing. He needs the 20 minute run arounds that can be afforded by a 4-0 score line and cup starts v 'lesser' opposition. I understand...

A quick reminder. As much as eventually that could very well be the case, your memory has to go back to the season where often everybody got in good positions, but then nearly always failed to convert.

I was watching him closely tonight, trying to be neutral. He had a couple of moments where he got tangled up, hopefully that's just the cobwebs. Played a nice ball into Ferguson and had a couple of 'round the corners'. All things considered I think he did well enough.

All good. There's the possibility he was a world class midfielder who was turned into an also ran. The game I come back too (frequently on this thread) is Utd away, mid week, when he ripped them a new one and we lost 2-0, because that's what we did back then.

Those stats were from a season where everybody had three assists, zero goals and very average performance statistics. He was played out of position, out wide, but still shone. He's a big lad who's a bugger for a one touch 'round the corner' pass. If, IF, he can move on from the injury, he'll be...

It happens a lot when players out for a very long time - the negativity about the return becomes over the top. Jakub is currently 24 years old, he's going to miss the best part of 2 years before he's fully up to speed (if he can get there). So you and many others are are being a little sniffy...

As said repeatedly here, the answer to your question is:- 15.02.22, Old Trafford, 6 weeks before his ACL. Utd couldn't pick him up all night. He was all over the pitch. But with De Zerbi in mind, Moder is an absolute bugger a first touch 'round the corner' pass - pure undistilled catnip to...

Gutted for the lad.

Oh no I can't believe he's had his leg amputated.

You only have to look at his Albion highlights reel to see he was cut down in his prime. The boy's a one touch flick merchant who's a bugger for the pass around the corner. I'm sure as far as RDZ is concerned he's walking catnip.

and I think that's bollox 😊

Blimey you lot, saying 'there's plenty of reasons why not' and then listing half a dozen negative ones doesn't really help. Getting all pissypants over preseason is insane!!

I thought the same but go back a page or 2 and look at his Albion highlights. When he was really in his stride (away at OT on that Thursday night springs to mind) he was all over the place. I'll hazard a guess RDZ can't wait to have him back at full speed.

While we were reeling through Caicedogate I thought it would be good to remind myself of the cut of his jib. My memory had him as a furthest forward, younger (healthier) version of The Lana, while the great and good had him as a replacement for Moises. Well worth a watch although you'll end it...