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It’s not a pass for football that is my issue per se it’s that it will be the thin end of the wedge and will potentially/probably lead to a world where you have to show an id to do most things, pub, shop, work etc. That is a long long way from normal life. It is 1984. For a virus that had a...

9 out of 10 people have anti bodies. Im pretty sure that is as good as it’s ever going to get. Is word global 100% vaccination really what people expect? Ever achievable? You mention government and money. I am highly confident that the transfer of our taxes to big pharma at global scale and...

No totally wrong. The vaccine works. What the long term effects are for a never used before technology no one has a clue which is why I’d defend anyone’s right to wait. Where I think you are accepting a lie is that you can’t consider that the entire passport concept is much more around...

Huh? I have never denied that the vaccines stop people dying from covid. They are really effective at it. I’ve literally confirmed it in several posts above. What’s the point of your post here? It’s like your arguing with yourself?

I don’t think any evidence regardless of how strong would ever allow you to consider the possibility you may be being lied to in any form whatsoever. The possibility is just a bit to uncomfortable for you. I get it. The bubble just feels nicer.

Yes anyone questioning whether an injection into their body where the producer has liability waivers such as these is clearly a coward and not somebody with enough ability to think for themselves that they would like to wait before pumping an experimental never before used technology into...

Reduced case numbers. Are you serious? Have you seen the last few months Uk data? The vaccines have clearly not stopped people catching covid. Anyone would look at the last 2 months case numbers and be able to see they were near record numbers with 85% vaccination. Are you actually being...

From Israel: Data from the Israeli Minister of Health in July suggested that the effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine in preventing infection and symptomatic illness had dropped from 90 percent to only 39 percent and 41 percent, respectively. However, the levels of protection against severe...

Latest info coming out of Israel. Almost all hospitalisation are fully vaccinated so of course covid pass is absolutely essential. https://m.theepochtimes.com/majority-of-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-are-fully-vaccinated-at-israel-hospital-doctor_3937497.html/amp?__twitter_impression=true

That doesn’t say anything about catching or transmission? I’m not disagreeing it prevents serious illness btw.

That says it is effective against preventing symptomatic effects not that it stops you catching it: Wednesday's study found that two doses of Pfizer's shot was 88% effective at preventing symptomatic disease from the Delta variant, compared to 93.7% against the Alpha variant, broadly the same...

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Is that actually true with Delta? I’m not sure it’s proven at all?

The actual inventor of the MRNA vaccine is now casting doubts on its effectiveness https://twitter.com/rwmalonemd/status/1424069313590292483?s=21

Am I going mad or is this the first paragraph? There are early signs that people who have been vaccinated against COVID-19 may be able to transmit the Delta variant of the virus as easily as those who have not, scientists at Public Health England (PHE) said on Friday.

So looks possible (from PHE) that vaccinated pass on delta exactly the same as non vaccinated people. The covid pass is a farce. https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/coronavirus-early-signs-covid-19-vaccines-may-not-stop-delta-transmission-uk-warns-2504452