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I apologise, i wasn't really suggesting that any clubs would do that, more that folks can and do tend to vote for things which harm them. Boris Johnson as PM anyone? I derailed your conversation in order to make a weak political point. edit* t'was the Turkey's for Christmas

I'm not too sure about that, not to get all political, but many turkeys have voted for Christmas in this country's recent history.

Winter break and no long-haul ore-season tours would help.

I rate Klopp (the hamstring pull was pure gold) & he's right. The schedule is brutal and it's only going to get worse. Killing the golden goose innit.