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The various iterations of Farage parties + Lib Dems had far more relevancy when we had European elections in which they both drew the hardcore remainers/leavers. I'd suggest now both influence had waned, their only real ability is to split main party votes, knowing they will never win an...

Agree with your points, but think on EU that approach is wrong, was always wrong and is most certainly self limiting. I actually find the lib dems balance of fiscal conservatism and social liberalism/justice attractive and whilst much maligned and chucked under a bus by the Tories, they did...