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Veltman is a great defender but anyone who thinks he's going to have the same impact on the attacking play as Gross... I'd label them delusional. Veltman is a very poor crosser of the ball, can't beat anyone in an attacking 1on1 and does not have the same vision or touch on the ball as Gross. He...

Less FIFA money though. Boo. Not that the £200k or so does anything at all.

Frank de Boer fuming in Dutch media over Veltman not being in the squad. But I still think he is a good defender.

Yup. Could not have many complaints if he's not in the final 26 but not to be part of this 39 man provisional squad is a joke. However, it is King Louie style. When he takes over a club and both times when taking charge of the Netherlands, he throws out most of the veterans, pick players no one...

Arguably Dumfries and Timber are better RBs and De Ligt, van Dijk and arguably de Vrij and Ake are better or similar level of CBs. But that the uncapped Bundesliga defender trio Bakker, Frimpong and van der Ven would all be better than Veltman? Not seen a lot of them but I just doubt it.

All dressed in Ecuador shirts

Whatever very little hope there was for Veltman going to the World Cup, it is now ruled out

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