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Very sensibly and reasonably they've included a far greater ronge of acceptable documents than those demanded by private companies do for various 'reasoms- - like selling or scrapping your car, for example. For instance, bus psses and other travel passes are allowed. Full list here...

We were never in favour of ID cards in this country - we had then through the war, but ditched them soon after. Regardless of political persuasion, the British psyche just didn't like ID cards - and governments (f both sides) wisely recognised that trying to introduce compuksory ID cards would...

No they haven't - they've made a list of acceptable ID to vote - but car dealers, banks, PL clubs etc. still won't accept them. That's what I was suggesting they legislate for - I know all about the acceptable forms for voting!

True - but they ought to include other identification as well - student ID, young people's travel cards for instance. And while they're at it, perhaps the government should legislate what is officially classed as acceptable photo ID, so that all the private organisasions that demand to see our...

The sort of 18-25 year old that doesn't earn enough money to learn to drive, never mind run a car, or go on foreign holidays, want to go to gigs, clubs, the cinema, some PL football matches, buy a lottery ticket, buy a Young Person's raicard, purchase any other age-restricted products and...

From the Electoral Commission website instructions on obtaining a Voter Authority Certificate: The bus pass includes a photo - when you go to the council office to apply for one they take the photo there and then to put it on the card. No charge. Presumably they can do this for the VAC too.

Fair rnough - but that 1.9 million figure does surprise me - 1.9 million who don't have a passport or driving licence I would have thought, but with all the other acceptable forms of ID I'd have expected that to cover a lot more people. You're right though, that the changes haven't so far been...

It is quite a leap of incredulity to assume that someone is a defender of a Government run by a party they describe as 'devious, well versed in the dark arts of politicking and are up to all sorts'. Some declaration of support, that! Oh well .....................

Yes, that may happen once - but I imagine it will be publicised before the time comes for any voting - and as people with no ID can apply for a free certificate I'm not sure anybody need be excluded, long term anyway.

Bus pass. No problem for oldies.

Unlike organisations (like some football clubs) who demand ID just to buy things, or use tickets they have purchased, the list of acceptable ID for voting in elections is far, far more comprehensive. The numbers excluded through lack of ID will be minimal - and even they can apply for a free...

So, when and how are they going to stop me voting then? I'm all agog ..............................

Twaddle. The Tories are devious, well versed in the dark arts of politicking and are up to all sorts - but they've stopped millions of us form voting? Cobblers! Strangely, millions of us haven't noticed and will turn up and vote (for whatever party we choose) as usual.

Penny to a pound on here that's nothing to do with the benevolent EU, it's all down to the wicked Belgian government........

Yes, they'd either introduce it straight away, or run a pilot scheme, which, like all pilot schemes, would be continued even when it proves to be a disaster. It happens all the time - don't you follow government actions? The Civil Service lives to increase bureaucracy - that means to them more...

Exactly. I've never been in favour of ID cards, but now that photo ID has become mandatory for so many transactions, it doesn't make ot any worse to add it to polling. It doesn't hurt, though I admit I find it mildly irritating. It's just some people getting in such a mindless tizzy about it, as...

I agree we don't need it, but we've virtually got it already. My question, which you and others haven't answered, is how this conspiracy theory is going to disbar people from getting an ID card, and how will they identify those individuals that the government wish to disenfranchise? Frankly...

Sigh. They don't have to have a passport or a driving license. Bus passes are free - the government only has to legalise them as valid ID - possibly do the same with the over 18 cards that kids all have these days to buy drinks. For those for whom none of these four options are available, they...

Has anyone come up with an answer as to how this evil corrupt government (I think I've got that right?) is going to prevent people getting ID cards.and which groups are they going to target?

See the several posts on this thread detailing occasions when people have needed photo ID (which in this country is a photo driving license or a passport), not ID cards per se - but there are times when officially recognised photo ID is required before a transaction can be completed. Money...