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  1. nwgull

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    At the end of that clip (from 2:45) where they transposed the deaths back by a couple of weeks, it showed that if the link was still there then deaths would start to increase around now. This clip was from last night, and unfortunately there were 27 deaths reported today (91 in total over the...
  2. nwgull

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    It's particularly annoying that India wasn't added to the Red List until 19th April, despite the variant being known about since the beginning of April. We wouldn't have stopped the variant spreading over here, but it'd have been significantly mitigated and bought us a few precious extra weeks...
  3. nwgull

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    This was all over the news earlier this week, but even so: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/18-people-hospital-bolton-coronavirus-20608067 Most cases of hospitalisation are on unvaccinated people that were eligible, so vaccinations are clearly effective at...
  4. nwgull

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    Where has it been reported as 100% percent effective against serious illness? People have been admitted to hospital in Bolton with the Indian variant after having one and two jabs, so it can’t be 100%.
  5. nwgull

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    5% vulnerable to a virus with a 1% mortality rate is an acceptable risk. There are far greater risks in the modern day, such as obesity and motor cars.
  6. nwgull

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    Wrong. 38 people out of about 25 million who had been (single-dose) vaccinated during the timescale of the study got seriously ill. That is incredibly low given that they were the most vulnerable.
  7. nwgull

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    India is a good example of what can happen if restrictions are lifted too early. Their numbers were looking really good a month or 2 ago. It’s a disaster over there now.
  8. nwgull

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    Two studies relating to the B117 variant, both of which studied subjects over a similar time. One study, which was carried out on 54,000 people that tested positive for the B117 variant, found that catching this variant was somewhere around 64% more likely to be fatal. The other study suggests...
  9. nwgull

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    There is literally a watermark and footnote on every page of that report that says it hasn't been peer reviewed. It's also a study of only 5,642 cases, as opposed to the study that you claim it disproves that was done on over 50,000 cases (and has been peer reviewed and published by the BMJ).
  10. nwgull

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    Show me a peer-reviewed study that shows that the fatality rate of the Kent variant is not greater than the previous variants.
  11. nwgull

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    Heavy vote-Leave area too, coincidentally.
  12. nwgull

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    I think that the R number is calculated based on random testing as much as anything. They’d certainly account for the increased testing numbers anyway. You’re right though, it will inevitably rise amongst school-age kids. What’s important is that they’re not vulnerable and that...
  13. nwgull

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    New mutations take several months to proliferate and most won't be vaccine resistant.
  14. nwgull

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    I agree with you; it's very likely going to be all down to the development of vaccine and/or therapeutic treatments. My post you replied to may be out of context as it's moved from the good news thread, but it was in response to a post suggesting that we're already in the second wave and that...
  15. nwgull

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    An injection of reality. How can we be in a 2nd wave when we're currently still in the lockdown phase of the 1st wave?
  16. nwgull

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    We're still in lockdown; the pubs are still closed; we can't watch a live match and we can't even hug our parents/children/grandchildren. It doesn't take a genius to work out that transmission rates will drop to <1 with most people following these guides/laws. A second wave will be when we're...
  17. nwgull

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    No. A second wave, if it occurs, will happen after lockdown and social distancing restrictions have been eased.
  18. nwgull

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    It's full of bare-naked ladies giving away free beer.
  19. nwgull

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    The chef medic and scientist themselves confirmed that the estimate is 5000-10000, and that probably doubles every 24-48 hours.
  20. nwgull

    Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

    Pension funds will recover if and when the market recovers. If a stock doesn’t recover then it’s because the fundamental value of a share has plummeted and there’s nothing a government can do about that.
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