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Understand the concern. But I think open up on this phase, delay the next one if needed.

I think this is totally the right point. Just because you can so something, doesn't mean you have to. I don't see myself going indoors in a pub or on public transport until totally vaccinated. Plenty I will be able to do. Personally I've given up worrying about what the law is and i'm...

And personally I think it's better that individuals are left to make those calculations than governments mandate a particular set of behaviour, which won't be listened to, as very few trust the government

And fair play to you mate. We've all got thinking to do, risks to weigh and tough decisions to make.

Live with others. Just to be clear, not judging you on any different decision you choose to make. It's a tough choice for a lot of people. I'm thinking along the lines of doing a xmas celebration sometime in Feb or whenever they get the jab

I'm going the other way on this one. I don't really care if the government say I legally can see my elderly relatives or not, i'm not going to do it. They'll get the vaccine soon enough and we'll do something special then

Excellent point. Boris and Cummins can be relied on totally to provide this censorship for the greater good

Completely agree. What we need is accurate, understandable data so that we can go about our lives safely. What we have is a complete fog. Partly this is the media, doing what they do to chase clicks and headlines. Partly it's also about the official figures. Personally I think...

If any mods are watching, I reckon this should be back on the main board now. It's not like there are hundreds of threads like there was in March. It should help keep the guff off the good news thread

Another flare up in a meat plant in Anglesea. They're not doing enough to keep people apart

Is that worldwide?

Re the heat, sunlight. It will be interesting / scary to see what happens when we get into Autumn and winter if we haven't got properly on top of this. I think it is very likely that this is seasonal. We want it gone or very nearly gone by September. If not then a winter lockdown is going to...

Happy to bet with anyone they will string it out until after the next election

It's the playground that's the problem. I've got a 5 year old, and there's no way he remember not to indulge in a game of "bundles", "tag" or "piggy backs" with his mates for an entire break. But I do remember reading an article that there is some evidence that youngsters this age may not be...

I'm genuinely not trying to be an arse about it, but if you've voted for someone in the full knowledge that they are a liar, you can't get too angry when a few weeks later one of their lies directly impacts you.

You're a fine human being Diablo

It's not so much a question of whether or not you're a bad dad, more about whether you are a bad person. Look, I'm sure it's going to be ok. And I wasn't there, so only you can tell if you've properly followed the public health advice re fever symptoms, but you really don't have to be at work...

Yes agree. I think PK is understating the risk of transmission. (unless they literally sneeze all over each other in China)

So if I let loose a massive sneeze into the air from my perch at the back of WSU, I could in theory infect hundreds of people * * unless it was after 85 minutes