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  1. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    At least we have control of our borders.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65143093
  2. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    If truth be told, for the architects of Brexit it was about de-regulation, less protection for workers, less regulations, less about working conditions, driving down wages even further. You are still latching onto the premise that the reason for low wages is immigration. That has never been...
  3. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    The half a brain part being if you voted Brexit thinking this would transform control of our borders. We already had control. The fact is we need immigration. Take the humanitarian routes out of it, and all that has happened is we've opened up to more non-EU migration to replace what we've lost...
  4. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    Putin isn't responsible for the likes of the US and UK massively increasing the wealth gap between the richest and poorest in their economies which feel the shock of events far more acutely than more progressive economies that have mantained a standard of living for their lowest earners so that...
  5. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    Anyone with half a brain.
  6. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    It is an echo chamber, but then Brexit is and was a giant echo chamber. But all the echoes were false, and all the project fear has proved real. So threads like this are now echoing the reality so I have a bit of sympathy that really, as a voter for this you want something somewhere that gives...
  7. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    That is a 'sucking on a lemon' meme if ever I have seen one!!
  8. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    Exactly, but perhaps uniquely the whole world was impacted by Covid and so you can measure impact through comparison with other similar economies that suffered Covid in similar ways. It's not going to be perfect, but Covid doesn't have to be a barrier for a proper attempt at an honest assessment...
  9. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    If you read it in full, you will note they echo your concerns about how you measure and compare, and illustrate how there is great difficulty in doing that. You have to try and measure it somehow though don't you? Or would you prefer no one looks at or acknowledges the consequence and...
  10. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    Economic and Social Research Institute finds overall trade is down by almost a fifth due to Brexit
  11. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    Yes, but did you vote for it to be a bit more shite?
  12. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    So previously if you subscribed to Sky or similar content in your EU country, you could stream that service in another EU country. Not anymore for the UK. Another lovely little Brexit benefit. :rolleyes:
  13. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    I wouldn’t worry too much. They’ve all moved to Portugal.:thumbsup:
  14. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    It's not all cakes and whistles in Eldorado....I mean Portugal. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/06/britons-portugal-post-brexit-id-cards
  15. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    Indeed they do Jacob…
  16. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    Finally, the identity of Cunning Fergus is known... "Minister blames France for recent problems and suggests Britons might go to Portugal instead" https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jacob-rees-mogg-admits-i-was-wrong-to-say-brexit-would-not-cause-dover-delays “Yes, of course I...
  17. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    Brexit created an unsolvable problem for the GFA to remain in place. Project Fear in that regard = Project Reality. Whether the Irish Back Stop, Protocol, Green Lane Red Lane - there is no real way of solving this other than a fudge. So Johnson and his cronies just went, **** it, may as well...
  18. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    'Replacing' the protocol, you cannot ditch it as clearly goods cannot move freely between Ireland and the UK and you cannot put a border between Ireland and NI. It's a shame no one mentioned this in 2016 that it might be difficult. The government's position is a new 'green lane' 'red lane'...
  19. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

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  20. Bold Seagull

    [Politics] Brexit

    We don't know the reason. Hypothetically no I wouldn't support France's decision, but neither am I confident it's not the UK refusing to adhere to EU rules or something equally stupid on their part on this matter either. The fact is, many of these issues are a consequence of taking ourselves...

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